Opened 5 years ago

Closed 3 years ago

#3863 closed defect (wontfix)

Linking two chains merges them

Reported by: Tristan Croll Owned by: Eric Pettersen
Priority: normal Milestone:
Component: Structure Editing Version:
Keywords: Cc:
Blocked By: Blocking:
Notify when closed: Platform: all
Project: ChimeraX

Description 

The following bug report has been submitted:
Platform:        Linux-3.10.0-1127.19.1.el7.x86_64-x86_64-with-centos-7.8.2003-Core
ChimeraX Version: 1.1 (2020-09-09 22:22:27 UTC)
Description
The fact that this happened was a bug on my part, but mentioning it because the result was quite confusing/problematic: adding a missing-structure pseudobond between the last residue of one chain and the first residue of the next seems to quietly merge the two chains into one.

OpenGL version: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 455.23.05
OpenGL renderer: TITAN Xp/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
Manufacturer: Dell Inc.
Model: Precision T5600
OS: CentOS Linux 7 Core
Architecture: 64bit ELF
CPU: 32 Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2687W 0 @ 3.10GHz
Cache Size: 20480 KB
Memory:
	              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
	Mem:            62G         10G         36G        246M         15G         51G
	Swap:          4.9G          0B        4.9G

Graphics:
	03:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GP102 [TITAN Xp] [10de:1b02] (rev a1)	
	Subsystem: NVIDIA Corporation Device [10de:11df]	
	Kernel driver in use: nvidia
PyQt version: 5.12.3
Compiled Qt version: 5.12.4
Runtime Qt version: 5.12.9
Installed Packages:
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    ChimeraX-TapeMeasure: 1.0
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Change History (7)

comment:1 by Eric Pettersen, 5 years ago

Component: Unassigned → Structure Editing
Owner: set to Eric Pettersen
Platform: → all
Project: → ChimeraX
Status: new → accepted
Summary: ChimeraX bug report submission → Linking two chains merges them

comment:2 by Eric Pettersen, 5 years ago

Resolution: → not a bug
Status: accepted → closed

It would seem that the two options when you explicitly create backbone connectivity between two chains are:

1) Do nothing. Leave them in a quasi-inconsistent state. Have the programmer do the heavy lifting if he/she wants to actually merge them into a single chain. Raises the question of why the programmer created the connectivity in the first place.

2) Automatically merge them.

I chose #2. I could be persuaded to allow #1 as option if there was some realistic usage scenario. It would be a bit of work.

in reply to:  3 ; comment:3 by Tristan Croll, 5 years ago 

Option 3 would be to just raise an exception. Perhaps just in the case where merging would lead to overlapping residue numbers - that can be a real pain to untangle afterwards.
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Sent: 23 October 2020 00:28
Cc: pett@cgl.ucsf.edu <pett@cgl.ucsf.edu>; Tristan Croll <tic20@cam.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: [ChimeraX] #3863: Linking two chains merges them

#3863: Linking two chains merges them
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          Reporter:  Tristan Croll      |      Owner:  Eric Pettersen
              Type:  defect             |     Status:  closed
          Priority:  normal             |  Milestone:
         Component:  Structure Editing  |    Version:
        Resolution:  not a bug          |   Keywords:
        Blocked By:                     |   Blocking:
Notify when closed:                     |   Platform:  all
           Project:  ChimeraX           |
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Changes (by Eric Pettersen):

 * status:  accepted => closed
 * resolution:   => not a bug


Comment:

 It would seem that the two options when you explicitly create backbone
 connectivity between two chains are:

 1) Do nothing.  Leave them in a quasi-inconsistent state.  Have the
 programmer do the heavy lifting if he/she wants to actually merge them
 into a single chain.  Raises the question of why the programmer created
 the connectivity in the first place.

 2) Automatically merge them.

 I chose #2.  I could be persuaded to allow #1 as option if there was some
 realistic usage scenario.  It would be a bit of work.

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comment:4 by Eric Pettersen, 5 years ago

Resolution: not a bug
Status: closed → reopened

Would it form the bond/pseudobond and raise an error, or not form it?

comment:5 by Eric Pettersen, 5 years ago

I'm guessing not forming it would leave things in the most consistent state possible.

in reply to:  6 ; comment:6 by Tristan Croll, 5 years ago 

I'd agree with that. Perhaps combined with an error message that points out the correct way to merge two chains.
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From: ChimeraX <ChimeraX-bugs-admin@cgl.ucsf.edu>
Sent: 23 October 2020 17:21
Cc: pett@cgl.ucsf.edu <pett@cgl.ucsf.edu>; Tristan Croll <tic20@cam.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: [ChimeraX] #3863: Linking two chains merges them

#3863: Linking two chains merges them
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          Reporter:  Tristan Croll      |      Owner:  Eric Pettersen
              Type:  defect             |     Status:  reopened
          Priority:  normal             |  Milestone:
         Component:  Structure Editing  |    Version:
        Resolution:                     |   Keywords:
        Blocked By:                     |   Blocking:
Notify when closed:                     |   Platform:  all
           Project:  ChimeraX           |
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Comment (by Eric Pettersen):

 I'm guessing not forming it would leave things in the most consistent
 state possible.

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comment:7 by Eric Pettersen, 3 years ago

Resolution: → wontfix
Status: reopened → closed

Upon further review, I have decided to do nothing about this. I want to keep the auto-chain-forming behavior which is extremely convenient, but there really is no good way to _not_ form the bond if it would result in numbering conflicts. I mean, not being psychic you have no way of knowing if the conflicts would be taken care of after the bond formation or not. For instance, forming a peptide bond with Build Structure cleans up the conflicts after forming the bond. So I don't want to force the rewrite of existing working code by enforcing this new restriction.

Also, with the new residue-renumbering command and tool, the situation is a lot more extricable than it was when this ticket was filed.

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