Opened 5 years ago

Closed 5 years ago

#3810 closed defect (nonchimerax)

glTF too bright in PowerPoint

Reported by: mikael.p.karjalainen@… Owned by: Tom Goddard
Priority: normal Milestone:
Component: Input/Output Version:
Keywords: Cc:
Blocked By: Blocking:
Notify when closed: Platform: all
Project: ChimeraX

Description 

The following bug report has been submitted:
Platform:        Windows-10-10.0.19041
ChimeraX Version: 1.1 (2020-09-09 22:22:27 UTC)
Description
I sent email to your email list with topic "Exporting 3D models from ChimeraX?". Issues was that exported 3D models in gltf format didn't show right in PowerPoint and they were washed out. Tom Goddard asked me to send gltf file from PyMol. PyMol hadles this little better, but not much. I remembered that PyMol got it right, but now when I saw exported 3D model in PowerPoint, it was slightly washed out in colours.

Log:
UCSF ChimeraX version: 1.1 (2020-09-09)  
© 2016-2020 Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.  
How to cite UCSF ChimeraX  




OpenGL version: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 456.55
OpenGL renderer: GeForce RTX 2070/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
Manufacturer: System manufacturer
Model: System Product Name
OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro (Build 19041)
Memory: 17,095,663,616
MaxProcessMemory: 137,438,953,344
CPU: 6 Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-9600K CPU @ 3.70GHz"
PyQt version: 5.12.3
Compiled Qt version: 5.12.4
Runtime Qt version: 5.12.9
Installed Packages:
    alabaster: 0.7.12
    appdirs: 1.4.4
    Babel: 2.8.0
    backcall: 0.2.0
    blockdiag: 2.0.1
    certifi: 2020.6.20
    chardet: 3.0.4
    ChimeraX-AddH: 2.1.1
    ChimeraX-AlignmentAlgorithms: 2.0
    ChimeraX-AlignmentHdrs: 3.2
    ChimeraX-AlignmentMatrices: 2.0
    ChimeraX-Alignments: 2.1
    ChimeraX-Arrays: 1.0
    ChimeraX-Atomic: 1.6.1
    ChimeraX-AtomSearch: 2.0
    ChimeraX-AxesPlanes: 2.0
    ChimeraX-BasicActions: 1.1
    ChimeraX-BILD: 1.0
    ChimeraX-BlastProtein: 1.0.1
    ChimeraX-BondRot: 2.0
    ChimeraX-BugReporter: 1.0
    ChimeraX-BuildStructure: 2.0
    ChimeraX-Bumps: 1.0
    ChimeraX-BundleBuilder: 1.0
    ChimeraX-ButtonPanel: 1.0
    ChimeraX-CageBuilder: 1.0
    ChimeraX-CellPack: 1.0
    ChimeraX-Centroids: 1.1
    ChimeraX-ChemGroup: 2.0
    ChimeraX-Clashes: 2.0
    ChimeraX-ColorActions: 1.0
    ChimeraX-ColorGlobe: 1.0
    ChimeraX-CommandLine: 1.1.3
    ChimeraX-ConnectStructure: 2.0
    ChimeraX-Contacts: 1.0
    ChimeraX-Core: 1.1
    ChimeraX-CoreFormats: 1.0
    ChimeraX-coulombic: 1.0.1
    ChimeraX-Crosslinks: 1.0
    ChimeraX-Crystal: 1.0
    ChimeraX-DataFormats: 1.0
    ChimeraX-Dicom: 1.0
    ChimeraX-DistMonitor: 1.1
    ChimeraX-DistUI: 1.0
    ChimeraX-Dssp: 2.0
    ChimeraX-EMDB-SFF: 1.0
    ChimeraX-ExperimentalCommands: 1.0
    ChimeraX-FileHistory: 1.0
    ChimeraX-FunctionKey: 1.0
    ChimeraX-Geometry: 1.1
    ChimeraX-gltf: 1.0
    ChimeraX-Graphics: 1.0
    ChimeraX-Hbonds: 2.0
    ChimeraX-Help: 1.0
    ChimeraX-HKCage: 1.0
    ChimeraX-IHM: 1.0
    ChimeraX-ImageFormats: 1.0
    ChimeraX-IMOD: 1.0
    ChimeraX-IO: 1.0
    ChimeraX-Label: 1.0
    ChimeraX-ListInfo: 1.0
    ChimeraX-Log: 1.1.1
    ChimeraX-LookingGlass: 1.1
    ChimeraX-Map: 1.0.1
    ChimeraX-MapData: 2.0
    ChimeraX-MapEraser: 1.0
    ChimeraX-MapFilter: 2.0
    ChimeraX-MapFit: 2.0
    ChimeraX-MapSeries: 2.0
    ChimeraX-Markers: 1.0
    ChimeraX-Mask: 1.0
    ChimeraX-MatchMaker: 1.1
    ChimeraX-MDcrds: 2.0
    ChimeraX-MedicalToolbar: 1.0.1
    ChimeraX-Meeting: 1.0
    ChimeraX-MLP: 1.0
    ChimeraX-mmCIF: 2.2
    ChimeraX-MMTF: 2.0
    ChimeraX-Modeller: 1.0
    ChimeraX-ModelPanel: 1.0
    ChimeraX-ModelSeries: 1.0
    ChimeraX-Mol2: 2.0
    ChimeraX-Morph: 1.0
    ChimeraX-MouseModes: 1.0
    ChimeraX-Movie: 1.0
    ChimeraX-Neuron: 1.0
    ChimeraX-Nucleotides: 2.0
    ChimeraX-OpenCommand: 1.2.1
    ChimeraX-PDB: 2.1
    ChimeraX-PDBBio: 1.0
    ChimeraX-PickBlobs: 1.0
    ChimeraX-Positions: 1.0
    ChimeraX-PresetMgr: 1.0
    ChimeraX-PubChem: 2.0
    ChimeraX-Read-Pbonds: 1.0
    ChimeraX-Registration: 1.1
    ChimeraX-RemoteControl: 1.0
    ChimeraX-ResidueFit: 1.0
    ChimeraX-RestServer: 1.0
    ChimeraX-RNALayout: 1.0
    ChimeraX-RotamerLibMgr: 2.0
    ChimeraX-RotamerLibsDunbrack: 2.0
    ChimeraX-RotamerLibsDynameomics: 2.0
    ChimeraX-RotamerLibsRichardson: 2.0
    ChimeraX-SaveCommand: 1.2
    ChimeraX-SchemeMgr: 1.0
    ChimeraX-SDF: 2.0
    ChimeraX-Segger: 1.0
    ChimeraX-Segment: 1.0
    ChimeraX-SeqView: 2.2
    ChimeraX-Shape: 1.0.1
    ChimeraX-Shell: 1.0
    ChimeraX-Shortcuts: 1.0
    ChimeraX-ShowAttr: 1.0
    ChimeraX-ShowSequences: 1.0
    ChimeraX-SideView: 1.0
    ChimeraX-Smiles: 2.0
    ChimeraX-SmoothLines: 1.0
    ChimeraX-SpaceNavigator: 1.0
    ChimeraX-StdCommands: 1.0.4
    ChimeraX-STL: 1.0
    ChimeraX-Storm: 1.0
    ChimeraX-Struts: 1.0
    ChimeraX-Surface: 1.0
    ChimeraX-SwapAA: 2.0
    ChimeraX-SwapRes: 2.0
    ChimeraX-TapeMeasure: 1.0
    ChimeraX-Test: 1.0
    ChimeraX-Toolbar: 1.0
    ChimeraX-ToolshedUtils: 1.0
    ChimeraX-Tug: 1.0
    ChimeraX-UI: 1.2.3
    ChimeraX-uniprot: 2.0
    ChimeraX-ViewDockX: 1.0
    ChimeraX-Vive: 1.1
    ChimeraX-VolumeMenu: 1.0
    ChimeraX-VTK: 1.0
    ChimeraX-WavefrontOBJ: 1.0
    ChimeraX-WebCam: 1.0
    ChimeraX-WebServices: 1.0
    ChimeraX-Zone: 1.0
    colorama: 0.4.3
    comtypes: 1.1.7
    cxservices: 1.0
    cycler: 0.10.0
    Cython: 0.29.20
    decorator: 4.4.2
    distlib: 0.3.1
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    idna: 2.10
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    python-dateutil: 2.8.1
    pytz: 2020.1
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    RandomWords: 0.3.0
    requests: 2.24.0
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    sfftk-rw: 0.6.6.dev0
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    snowballstemmer: 2.0.0
    sortedcontainers: 2.2.2
    Sphinx: 3.1.1
    sphinxcontrib-applehelp: 1.0.2
    sphinxcontrib-blockdiag: 2.0.0
    sphinxcontrib-devhelp: 1.0.2
    sphinxcontrib-htmlhelp: 1.0.3
    sphinxcontrib-jsmath: 1.0.1
    sphinxcontrib-qthelp: 1.0.3
    sphinxcontrib-serializinghtml: 1.1.4
    suds-jurko: 0.6
    tables: 3.6.1
    tifffile: 2020.6.3
    tinyarray: 1.2.2
    tornado: 6.0.4
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    WMI: 1.5.1
File attachment: 2egc gltf file.gltf

2egc gltf file.gltf​

Attachments (5)

2egc gltf file.gltf​ (818.2 KB ) - added by mikael.p.karjalainen@… 5 years ago.
Added by email2trac
2egc_cx_lt10.png​ (276.7 KB ) - added by Tom Goddard 5 years ago.
ChimeraX lightness 10 in PowerPoint.
2egc_cx_lt15.png​ (251.6 KB ) - added by Tom Goddard 5 years ago.
ChimeraX lightness 15 in PowerPoint.
2egc_pymol.png​ (236.0 KB ) - added by Tom Goddard 5 years ago.
PyMol gltf in PowerPoint
2egc-cx-lt10.glb​ (4.2 MB ) - added by Tom Goddard 5 years ago.
ChimeraX lightness 10 gltf file.

Change History (8)

by mikael.p.karjalainen@…, 5 years ago

Attachment: 2egc gltf file.gltf​ added

Added by email2trac

comment:1 by Eric Pettersen, 5 years ago

Component: Unassigned → Input/Output
Owner: set to Tom Goddard
Platform: → all
Project: → ChimeraX
Status: new → assigned
Summary: ChimeraX bug report submission → Pymol gltf file
Type: defect → task

comment:2 by Tom Goddard, 5 years ago

Summary: Pymol gltf file → glTF too bright in PowerPoint
Type: task → defect

I compared the PyMol glTF file to a ChimeraX glTF of the same structure. There were no extra lighting or settings specified in PyMol. Embedding the PyMol glTF in PowerPoint produces the same bad bright lighting. It looks a little better with PyMol colors because PyMol is not using as bright a green and yellow as ChimeraX. The ChimeraX glTF can be made to look reasonably good, much better than PyMol by exporting a dim version as glTF. That compensates for the overly bright lighting set by PowerPoint. Here are example ChimeraX commands

open 2egc
color strand yellow
color !strand lime
show :50-55
color :50-55 byhet
color modify #1 lightness 10
save 2egc-light10.glb

I'll attach images from PowerPoint of ChimeraX lightness 10, lightness 15 and PyMol.

In summary, this is a PowerPoint problem that it does not set reasonable lighting nor does it allow you to change the lighting to be dimmer.

by Tom Goddard, 5 years ago

Attachment: 2egc_cx_lt10.png​ added

ChimeraX lightness 10 in PowerPoint.

by Tom Goddard, 5 years ago

Attachment: 2egc_cx_lt15.png​ added

ChimeraX lightness 15 in PowerPoint.

by Tom Goddard, 5 years ago

Attachment: 2egc_pymol.png​ added

PyMol gltf in PowerPoint

by Tom Goddard, 5 years ago

Attachment: 2egc-cx-lt10.glb​ added

ChimeraX lightness 10 gltf file.

comment:3 by Tom Goddard, 5 years ago

Resolution: → nonchimerax
Status: assigned → closed

I don't see anything we can do about PowerPoint's bad lighting.

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