Opened 4 years ago

Last modified 7 months ago

#5434 feedback defect

metadata interchange

Reported by: Tristan Croll Owned by: pett
Priority: normal Milestone:
Component: Input/Output Version:
Keywords: Cc: Greg Couch
Blocked By: Blocking:
Notify when closed: Platform: all
Project: ChimeraX

Description (last modified by pett) 

The following bug report has been submitted:
Platform:        Linux-3.10.0-1160.25.1.el7.x86_64-x86_64-with-glibc2.17
ChimeraX Version: 1.3.dev202110120902 (2021-10-12 09:02:44 UTC)
Description
I think I've suggested this before, but it's buried in some other ticket and I can't find it via the search: I really think at least some metadata from PDB and mmCIF files should be parsed into an object that can be used to write back to either PDB or mmCIF. Most importantly, if I load from PDB and write to mmCIF or vice versa, all the symmetry information corresponding to CRYST1 is currently lost. The equivalent information to CRYST1 in mmCIF can be found in the _cell and _symmetry sections, e.g.:

# 
_cell.entry_id           3IO0 
_cell.length_a           173.410 
_cell.length_b           173.410 
_cell.length_c           173.410 
_cell.angle_alpha        90.00 
_cell.angle_beta         90.00 
_cell.angle_gamma        90.00 
_cell.Z_PDB              24 
_cell.pdbx_unique_axis   ? 
_cell.length_a_esd       ? 
_cell.length_b_esd       ? 
_cell.length_c_esd       ? 
_cell.angle_alpha_esd    ? 
_cell.angle_beta_esd     ? 
_cell.angle_gamma_esd    ? 
# 
_symmetry.entry_id                         3IO0 
_symmetry.space_group_name_H-M             'I 21 3' 
_symmetry.pdbx_full_space_group_name_H-M   ? 
_symmetry.cell_setting                     ? 
_symmetry.Int_Tables_number                199 
_symmetry.space_group_name_Hall            ? 


OpenGL version: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 465.19.01
OpenGL renderer: NVIDIA TITAN Xp/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
Manufacturer: Dell Inc.
Model: Precision T5600
OS: CentOS Linux 7 Core
Architecture: 64bit ELF
Virutal Machine: none
CPU: 32 Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2687W 0 @ 3.10GHz
Cache Size: 20480 KB
Memory:
	              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
	Mem:            62G         13G         23G        524M         26G         48G
	Swap:          4.9G          0B        4.9G

Graphics:
	03:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GP102 [TITAN Xp] [10de:1b02] (rev a1)	
	Subsystem: NVIDIA Corporation Device [10de:11df]	
	Kernel driver in use: nvidia
Locale: ('en_GB', 'UTF-8')
PyQt5 5.15.2, Qt 5.15.2
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    ChimeraX-Dicom: 1.0
    ChimeraX-DistMonitor: 1.1.5
    ChimeraX-Dssp: 2.0
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    ChimeraX-FunctionKey: 1.0
    ChimeraX-Geometry: 1.1
    ChimeraX-gltf: 1.0
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    ChimeraX-IHM: 1.1
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    ChimeraX-PickBlobs: 1.0
    ChimeraX-Positions: 1.0
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    ChimeraX-Registration: 1.1
    ChimeraX-RemoteControl: 1.0
    ChimeraX-ResidueFit: 1.0
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    ChimeraX-RNALayout: 1.0
    ChimeraX-RotamerLibMgr: 2.0
    ChimeraX-RotamerLibsDunbrack: 2.0
    ChimeraX-RotamerLibsDynameomics: 2.0
    ChimeraX-RotamerLibsRichardson: 2.0
    ChimeraX-Sample: 0.1
    ChimeraX-SaveCommand: 1.5
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    ChimeraX-Segger: 1.0
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    ChimeraX-SideView: 1.0
    ChimeraX-Smiles: 2.1
    ChimeraX-SmoothLines: 1.0
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    ChimeraX-STL: 1.0
    ChimeraX-Storm: 1.0
    ChimeraX-StructMeasure: 1.0
    ChimeraX-Struts: 1.0
    ChimeraX-Surface: 1.0
    ChimeraX-SwapAA: 2.0
    ChimeraX-SwapRes: 2.1
    ChimeraX-TapeMeasure: 1.0
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    ChimeraX-UnitCell: 1.0
    ChimeraX-ViewDockX: 1.0.1
    ChimeraX-VIPERdb: 1.0
    ChimeraX-Vive: 1.1
    ChimeraX-VolumeMenu: 1.0
    ChimeraX-Voyager: 0.1
    ChimeraX-VTK: 1.0
    ChimeraX-WavefrontOBJ: 1.0
    ChimeraX-WebCam: 1.0
    ChimeraX-WebServices: 1.0
    ChimeraX-Zone: 1.0
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Change History (8)

comment:1 by pett, 4 years ago

Cc: Greg Couch added
Component: Unassigned → Input/Output
Owner: set to pett
Platform: → all
Project: → ChimeraX
Status: new → accepted
Summary: ChimeraX bug report submission → metadata interchange

comment:2 by pett, 4 years ago

Status: accepted → feedback

I think this is too big a job and too narrow a use case to be worth the effort to implement the general-case solution. Practically speaking, we should identify the headers actually needed here and prioritize which ones get translated in the file writers first. So, CRYST1. What else?

comment:3 by pett, 3 years ago

Okay, I have made PDB files write a CRYST1 record based on mmCIF metadata if there is no pre-existing CRYST1 record. Is this good enough, or does the reverse also need to happen (and/or other record types also)?

in reply to:  4 ; comment:4 by Tristan Croll, 3 years ago 

Thanks for doing this! Yes - it would be ideal if you could also do the
reverse. The cell and symmetry information are the only things important to
me right now.

On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 1:57 AM ChimeraX <ChimeraX-bugs-admin@cgl.ucsf.edu>
wrote:

comment:5 by pett, 7 months ago

Description: modified (diff)

Okay, now the reverse has been implemented -- the 'cell' and 'symmetry' tables are cobbled together if the metadata is in PDB format. Leaving this ticket open since it's really for all the metadata and we've only done CRYST1 and its equivalent tables, but no further work will happen here until another metadata-tranalation need has been identified.

Fix: ​https://github.com/RBVI/ChimeraX/commit/cc0c07f13489f0d1e495d72cba3f3270d9e740eb

comment:6 by Tristan Croll, 7 months ago 

Thanks!

One other thing that would be really handy would be an option to *remove* or
replace the symmetry information for a model... e.g. when (part of) a
crystallographic model is used as the starting point for fitting a new
cryo-EM map the old symmetry info is carried through with (as far as I'm
aware) no user-facing ability to reset it.

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comment:7 by pett, 7 months ago 



Would an API be sufficient, or would there need to be a command?

comment:8 by Tristan Croll, 7 months ago 

I could certainly make an API work for ISOLDE’s purposes, but I can imagine
others might find a command useful. Perhaps just something like a
“discardSymmetry” option on the save command?

On Tue, 11 Mar 2025 at 18:38, ChimeraX <ChimeraX-bugs-admin@cgl.ucsf.edu>
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