Opened 20 months ago

Closed 20 months ago

#14872 closed defect (wontfix)

swapaa mousemode assigns -1 serial numbers

Reported by: Tristan Croll Owned by: Tom Goddard
Priority: normal Milestone:
Component: Structure Editing Version:
Keywords: Cc: Eric Pettersen
Blocked By: Blocking:
Notify when closed: Platform: all
Project: ChimeraX

Description 

The following bug report has been submitted:
Platform:        Windows-10-10.0.22631
ChimeraX Version: 1.8.dev202403220040 (2024-03-22 00:40:30 UTC)
Description
Just exploring atom selection based on serial_number as per the current email thread on ChimeraX-Users... is it expected behaviour that atoms added after opening the model (e.g. via addh or swapaa) all have -1 as their serial number?

OpenGL version: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 529.19
OpenGL renderer: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL vendor: NVIDIA Corporation

Python: 3.11.4
Locale: en_GB.cp1252
Qt version: PyQt6 6.6.1, Qt 6.6.1
Qt runtime version: 6.6.2
Qt platform: windows

Manufacturer: HP
Model: HP ZBook Studio 15.6 inch G8 Mobile Workstation PC
OS: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro (Build 22631)
Memory: 34,007,068,672
MaxProcessMemory: 137,438,953,344
CPU: 16 11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-11800H @ 2.30GHz
OSLanguage: en-GB

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Change History (11)

comment:1 by Eric Pettersen, 20 months ago

Component: Unassigned → Structure Editing
Owner: set to Eric Pettersen
Platform: → all
Project: → ChimeraX
Status: new → accepted
Summary: ChimeraX bug report submission → Serial numbers

comment:2 by Eric Pettersen, 20 months ago

If I addh to 1gcn, the added hydrogen serial numbers are unique positive integers. Swapaa does not add hydrogens. Color me confused...

FYI, atoms added by chimerax.atomic.struct_edit.add_atom() will have "good" serial numbers. Those added by structure.new_atom() will have -1 serial numbers.

comment:3 by Eric Pettersen, 20 months ago

Status: accepted → feedback

comment:4 by Tristan Croll, 20 months ago 

Hmm... I was distracted, but I could have sworn that `addh` did it. But I
can't reproduce that now. But `swapaa mousemode` definitely does lead to -1
serial numbers in my current daily build (1.8.dev202403220040).

On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 5:37 PM ChimeraX <ChimeraX-bugs-admin@cgl.ucsf.edu>
wrote:

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comment:5 by Eric Pettersen, 20 months ago

Status: feedback → accepted

comment:6 by Eric Pettersen, 20 months ago

Cc: Eric Pettersen added
Owner: changed from Eric Pettersen to Tom Goddard
Status: accepted → assigned
Summary: Serial numbers → swapaa mousemode assigns -1 serial numbers

"swapaa mousemode" must be using structure.new_atom() instead of chimerax.atomic.struct_edit.add_atom(). If using new_atom(), you have to assign a reasonable serial number by hand.

comment:7 by Tom Goddard, 20 months ago

What is a "reasonable" atom serial number? Should it just look at the maximum serial number for all atoms in the structure and use the next largest number?

comment:8 by Eric Pettersen, 20 months ago

That's what add_atom() does. You could try to get fancy by "filling in" missing serial numbers, but I don't think there's any way to do that quickly and I don't know that it would be any more correct.

comment:9 by Tom Goddard, 20 months ago

I see that when I write out a PDB file or mmCIF file after using the swapaa mouse mode it does not use the -1 serial numbers, apparently the file writing renumbers all the atom serial numbers. So I guess I am wondering why we care if the atom serial numbers of newly added atoms are -1. I guess making them unique values for all the new atoms has some theoretical merit, but it seems pretty much like 100% busy work with no actual motivating use.

comment:10 by Tristan Croll, 20 months ago 

No argument on my part. Selecting atoms by serial number is a horribly
fragile way of doing things. Just reported it because I was idly messing
around with the commands mentioned in the chimerax-users thread and got
surprised when "sel @@serial_number<4" selected a bunch of unexpected atoms.

On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 8:10 PM ChimeraX <ChimeraX-bugs-admin@cgl.ucsf.edu>
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comment:11 by Tom Goddard, 20 months ago

Resolution: → wontfix
Status: assigned → closed

Given there seems to be no problem with atom serial numbers = -1 I'm not going to waste time "fixing it". There are far to many actually useful ChimeraX changes to make. If someone reports a real reason why the atom serial numbers should be say unique and greater assigned values starting at the maximum current atom serial number then it may be worth doing.

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