Changes between Version 5 and Version 6 of NIAID2024

Timestamp:

Mar 28, 2024, 2:05:11 PM (19 months ago)

Author:

Elaine Meng

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NIAID2024

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 Scooter: this all ties into what metadata we want to have in the GLTF output.  Groups of residues predefined, e.g. "high pLDDT" or by chain ID or domain, etc. Phil: Darrell, maybe you can help us decide on the standard set of outputs.  Darrell: should be useful and include ones that are harder for some people to generate on their own, which used to be the case for ESP coloring.  We'll have to put our heads together and decide on an edited set.  Kristen: maybe we could offer checkbox choices of which outputs the user wants.
 
-Phil: ChimeraX gltf outputs look washed out when embedded into Microsoft documents (Powerpoint and Word). Due to their oversaturated lighting model, which is unlikely to be addressed by Microsoft, so we have to try to work around it. I can generate ChimeraX gltf files that look better after embedding in such documents by using different settings in ChimeraX (I have my own preset for this, which uses "color modify" to lighten the colors) but that may require yet another set of output options. Kristen: I hacked Powerpoint to get around it but it's not trivial.  See this in the forum for the Microsoft lighting: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/all/3d-model-lighting-inside-powerpoint/d0c0c316-8019-4c25-b0f6-86500e512f91
+Phil: ChimeraX gltf outputs look washed out when embedded into Microsoft documents (Powerpoint and Word). Due to their oversaturated lighting model, which is unlikely to be addressed by Microsoft, so we have to try to work around it. I can generate ChimeraX gltf files that look better after embedding in such documents by using different settings in ChimeraX (I have my own preset for this, which uses "color modify" to lighten the colors) but that may require yet another set of output options. Kristen: I hacked Powerpoint to get around it but it's not trivial.  See this in the forum for the Microsoft lighting: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/all/3d-model-lighting-inside-powerpoint/d0c0c316-8019-4c25-b0f6-86500e512f91 ... The suggested solution is what I've done in the past to fix the lighting.
 
 Meghan posted another link in the chat
 https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/all/powerpoint-uses-gltf-but-doesnt-support/002d1f4e-061d-4ab6-a692-ed217945724a
 
-Meghan: are there ways to fix the gltf after it's output?  Blender, but having to download Blender is another barrier.  Kristen: maybe NIH3D could have a "optimize gltf for Microsoft documents" service that runs our own Blender.  Phil, Darrell: it may be a useful utility.  Darrell: does gltf outputs from ChimeraX include lights?  Kristen: I just checked, and no, these gltf files do not include lights or camera. Darrell: we might also look at providing U3D which can be embedded in PDFs. Greg: it hasn't been used much. Darrell: probably because it is rather difficult to generate.
+Meghan: are there ways to fix the gltf after it's output?  Blender, but having to download Blender is another barrier.  Kristen: maybe NIH3D could have a "optimize gltf for Microsoft documents" service that runs our own Blender.  Phil, Darrell: it may be a useful utility.  Darrell: does gltf outputs from ChimeraX include lights?  Kristen: I just checked, and no, these gltf files do not include lights or camera. 
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+Darrell: we might also look at providing U3D which can be embedded in PDFs. Greg: it hasn't been used much. Darrell: probably because it is rather difficult to generate.  Meghan posted this link in the chat
+https://helpx.adobe.com/acrobat/using/adding-3d-models-pdfs-acrobat.html