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4From: Tom Goddard <goddard@sonic.net>
5Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0)
6Subject: Re: [chimerax-users] Re: Glasses-free Samsung Odyssey 3D Monitor support
7Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2025 13:21:09 -0400
8Message-Id: <6D9FDB84-CD6F-4F35-9329-6889B1DD9B17@sonic.net>
9References: <D1C1BDF3-489D-4925-9516-1C3AE84C2664@gmail.com>
10Cc: Andre Clemens Michaelis <michaelis@biochem.mpg.de>,
11 chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu
12In-Reply-To: <D1C1BDF3-489D-4925-9516-1C3AE84C2664@gmail.com>
13To: Greg Pintilie <gregdp@gmail.com>
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21<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
22utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi A=
23ndre,</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; We discussed t=
24he Samsung Odyssey 3D on the ChimeraX mailing list last month</div><div dir=3D=
25"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=3D"https://mail.cgl.ucs=
26f.edu/mailman/archives/list/chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu/thread/VWOX4EMKIGKFX=
27YYENTYCVFJY4MM6KJ26/#62U574TFJVGLE44JJTSRVIUT3HMHESDN">https://mail.cgl.ucsf=
28.edu/mailman/archives/list/chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu/thread/VWOX4EMKIGKFXY=
29YENTYCVFJY4MM6KJ26/#62U574TFJVGLE44JJTSRVIUT3HMHESDN</a></div><div dir=3D"lt=
30r"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">The display manual does not mention OpenXR, on=
31ly side-by-side stereo.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
32r">&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=3D"https://downloadcenter.samsung.com/content/UM/2025=
3306/20250612182444761/BN81-27045C-00_WUG_G60SD_G61SD_G81SF_G90XF_NA_LATIN_ENG=
34_250226.1.pdf">https://downloadcenter.samsung.com/content/UM/202506/20250612=
35182444761/BN81-27045C-00_WUG_G60SD_G61SD_G81SF_G90XF_NA_LATIN_ENG_250226.1.p=
36df</a></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Chimerax does not su=
37pport fullscreen side-by-side stereo so it won't work with this display. &nb=
38sp;We might in the future add support.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div=
39><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; &nbsp;Tom</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D=
40"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jun 22, 2025, a=
41t 11:14=E2=80=AFAM, Greg Pintilie via ChimeraX-users &lt;chimerax-users@cgl.=
42ucsf.edu&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div=
43 dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html=
44; charset=3Dutf-8"><div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word; -we=
45bkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><div><br></div><div><=
46br></div>Hi Andre,<div><br></div><div>I can pass some information since I=E2=
47=80=99ve been looking into this with Tom Goddard a lot recently, not with th=
48e Samsung monitor, but with two others that have the same technology:</div><=
49div><br></div><div>Tom has the ChimeraX latest builds working with the "Sony=
50 3D Spatial Reality Display=E2=80=9D monitors. You just have to connect the m=
51onitor, run ChimeraX and then type =E2=80=9Cxr on=E2=80=9D in the command li=
52ne.</div><div><br></div><div>We also tried the "Acer 3D SpatialLabs ViewPro 2=
537=E2=80=9D, but Tom found bugs in their openXR implementation, so the latest=
54 ChimeraX is not working with this yet, but likely there will be a fix very s=
55oon. Tom has a modified version of ChimeraX that works with this monitor, bu=
56t it is not released yet.</div><div><br></div><div>You can google the above n=
57ames, I would put links but they seem to vary by region. I am a huge fan of b=
58oth of the above two monitors. The 3D effect is great, very useful for model=
59ing and viewing complex models and 3D maps. Also super easy to run, compared=
60 to previous technologies. There are still some quirks, like that you have t=
61o interact with the 3D view on your main monitor, not on the 3D monitor dire=
62ctly.</div><div><br></div><div>There are no tests yet of ChimeraX with the S=
63amsung monitor, that I know of. It looks really nice, but I didn=E2=80=99t f=
64ind any info on whether it supports openXR or not, which is what ChimerX is u=
65sing. We had some discussion on this list recently about whether it=E2=80=99=
66s worth using the SBS mode, which it apparently supports, but that mode has e=
67ven more quirks, so would not encourage.</div><div><br></div><div>Greg P.</d=
68iv><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div></div><div><br></div><d=
69iv><br></div><div><br id=3D"lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><blockqu=
70ote type=3D"cite"><div>On Jun 21, 2025, at 11:54=E2=80=AFAM, Michaelis, Andr=
71e Clemens via ChimeraX-users &lt;chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu&gt; wrote:</div=
72><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div>
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74<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8">
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76<div dir=3D"auto">
77<div>Dear ChimeraX Team,</div>
78<div><br>
79</div>
80<div>I was wondering if you had experience with the glasses-free Samsung Ody=
81ssey 3D monitor or know if ChimeraX is supporting it? Maybe you got already f=
82eedback from some users, as this seems like the perfect solution to work wit=
83h!</div>
84<div><br>
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151xt-decoration: none" draggable=3D"false"><font style=3D"">Odyssey G9 27" 3D
152 4K Gaming Monitor with Speakers</font></a></div>
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173Thank you&nbsp;<br id=3D"lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature">
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175<div><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Best, Andr=C3=
176=A9</span></div>
177<div><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br>
178</span>
179<div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><span style=3D"back=
180ground-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><font>&nbsp;</font>=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=
181=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=
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183iv><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span style=3D"background-color:=
184 rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Andr=C3=A9 Michaelis<o:p></o:p></span></div><div s=
185tyle=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255=
186, 255, 255, 0);">Max-Planck Institute of Biochemistry<o:p></o:p></span></div=
187><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span style=3D"background-color: r=
188gba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Dept. Proteomics and Signal Transduction<br>
189<span dir=3D"ltr"><span dir=3D"ltr">Am Klopferspitz 18</span></span><br>
190<span dir=3D"ltr">D-82152 Martinsried</span>/Munich<br>
191<br>
192<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><o:p style=3D=
193"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"=
194margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 2=
19555, 0);">Phone:&nbsp;<span dir=3D"ltr">+49 89 8578 2213</span><br>
196email:&nbsp;<a href=3D"mailto:michaelis@biochem.mpg.de" title=3D"mailto:mich=
197aelis@biochem.mpg.de Cmd+Klicken, um Link zu folgen">michaelis@biochem.mpg.d=
198e</a><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span l=
199ang=3D"DE"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 25=
2005, 0);"><a href=3D"http://www.biochem.mpg.de/mann/">www.biochem.mpg.de/mann/=
201</a></span></span></div>
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