[Chimera-users] Fwd: Chimera 3-D viewing

Daniel Gurnon danielgurnon at depauw.edu
Mon Jun 21 17:36:29 PDT 2010

Matt covered pretty much everything, but note that for active glasses plus a
120Hz LCD (number 2 below), you'll want a Quadro card instead of a Geforce
card; Chimera works in windowed mode with Nvidia 3D vision and a Quadro
card. The advantage over the crystal eyes setup is that because Nvidia 3D
vision uses a usb-connected emitter, the Quadro card need not be equipped
with an onboard stereo port, so you can buy a cheap ($120) model like the

I also have a setup that uses a cheaper projector capable of 85Hz sequential
projection, a FX4500 Quadro card I bought used for $500, and 30pr of
relatively cheap active eyewear (the $100 edimensional glasses). But
honestly, active eyewear is a bad idea for large audiences. Bad. I covet
Matt's passive setup with the infocus projector.


On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Dougherty, Matthew T
<matthewd at bcm.tmc.edu>wrote:

> Hi Ed,
> It turns out it is a complicated answer depending on various factors.  I
> will outline some of the issues.
> If you are doing a workstation only, that is not supporting a projector for
> a lot of users, the cheapest route is row interleave; zalman makes a display
> for $300, and uses cheap glasses ($1-$15) the same used in most movie
> theaters; no additional hardware.  The downside is you loose half your
> vertical resolution.
> If you are doing a workstation only and want maximum vertical resolution
> you will need to go with active glasses.
> There are several ways to make this happen:
> 1) crystal eyes glasses ($300), quadro card ($1800), emitter ($100), CRT
> ($200-500); stereographics.com.  NuVision offers cheaper glasses.  Someday
> someone might offer a 120HZ compatible LCD display, this is not a technical
> problem.
> 2) active glasses ($150), Gforce card ($300), LCD 120 HZ monitor ($300),
> emitter ($50); only works on MS Windows, not sure if chimera supports this.
>  nvidia.com  Nothing is compatible with #1). someday may work with linux
> and mac.
> If you are doing a workstation and want to support a projector, you got two
> options, passive and active using an in-focus projector ($5-6k).
> You get full vertical resolution even if you are doing passive.  If you do
> passive you will need a polarizer ($5k) and cheap glasses ($1-15) same used
> in the most movie theaters.  If you do active you need a theater emitter
> ($500-1000) and active glasses ($200-300).  Either way you are going to need
> a quadro card ($1800) in your workstation.
> In my lab we use all the methods except the polarizer, which is on order.
>  I find the Zalman approach the least hassle and most recyclable, but for
> conference room setting with a number of people the polarizer is most
> economical, what the movie theaters are gravitating to, and has less
> operational failures.
> Matt
> ________________________________________
> From: chimera-users-bounces at cgl.ucsf.edu [
> chimera-users-bounces at cgl.ucsf.edu] On Behalf Of Eric Pettersen [
> pett at cgl.ucsf.edu]
> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 4:24 PM
> To: Chimera BB
> Cc: Edward Pate
> Subject: [Chimera-users] Fwd: Chimera 3-D viewing
> Forwarding Ed Pate's question (below) to this list, in the hope that
> someone who actually knows the answer can chime in!
> --Eric
> Begin forwarded message:
> From: Edward Pate <edpate at hotmail.com<mailto:edpate at hotmail.com>>
> Date: June 19, 2010 2:39:09 PM PDT
> To: <pett at cgl.ucsf.edu<mailto:pett at cgl.ucsf.edu>>
> Subject: Chimera 3-D viewing
> Hi Eric:
> I am looking into getting a new workstation for Chimera.  In the past, we
> have gotten CRT displays in order to do 3-D visualization.  Could you
> recommend other display options that are available now and that users have
> been happy with?  Is a CRT still the best option?
> Thanks for the help.
> Ed
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Daniel Gurnon, Ph. D.
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DePauw University
Greencastle, IN 46135

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