= Attendees =

* Conrad, Elaine, Eric, Scooter, TomG, TomF

= Agenda =
* Review action items from 8/17 meeting
* ChimeraX alpha 2 release?
* Rotamer library license
* Chimera 1.12
* Alpha 3
  - Yet another new bundle building change
  - Sessions: msgpack vs pickle
* Alpha 4
  - Undo manager
  - Preferences GUI
* Preserve logs in sessions as history?
* Beta release topics
* Next meeting
 - Who will develop mmCIF writer? [https://plato.cgl.ucsf.edu/trac/ChimeraX/ticket/752#comment:3 ticket]
 - ChimeraX on Github

= Discussion =
* ChimeraX alpha 2 release
  - done
* Rotamer library license
  - Revise license to say "Chimera and ChimeraX" instead of just "Chimera"
  - Don't hold your breath
* Chimera 1.12 waiting on:
  - feedback about Windows possible virus-checking problem
  - Dunbrack rotamer license
  - ~~pdb.org vs. rcsb.org
  - openssl on Linux, use system version
* Alpha 3
  - ~~Yet another new bundle building change
    - Using API version attr instead of testing for exceptions
    - Enhance bundle API to pass bundle/command info to '''register_command''' and '''start_tool'''
  - Sessions: msgpack vs pickle
    - Use different extension mechanism to handle tuples/lists instead of overloading map serialization and checking for special  {{{ __type__ }}} key
    - Other custom types, e.g., DateTime, will use new extension mechanism as well
* Alpha 4
  - Undo manager
    * Conrad
  - Preferences GUI
    * Eric
    * Core preferences + 1 example bundle preferences
    * Ensure fetching URL is settable via preferences
  - Rescan tickets, in particular, findclash
* Preserve logs through sessions via:
  - preference to not save
  - mechanism to not render entire history at start
  - GUI to display/clear old logs by date or other criteria
  - search capability
  - close session discussion
    - pref for wipe log vs. retain
    - if not wipe, need to only save from 'close session' on
    - restore session implies close session
* Beta release topics
  - Why do we need a beta so soon?  Why not leave it as alpha?
  - Is December a realistic target?
  - Will bundles move out from core, e.g., atomic?
  - What are the beta APIs?  Toolshed.  Atomic.  Command...
  - How much "firming up" API is needed?
  - What consists of "the API"?  Public methods, even those without Sphinx documentation?
  - Release protocol for "core" bundles?

= Action Items =
* Conrad will continue working on ribbon tickets
* Conrad will investigate implementing the "like" operator
 - e.g., to specify polymer in atomspec
* Scooter will investigate making tickets public (possibly marking some tickets private)
* ~~Elaine Alpha 2 announcements
* ~~Eric will determine if pdb.org is a redirect
* Conrad will send mail to RCSB about bad pdb.org certificate