= Attendees =

* Conrad, Elaine, Eric, Greg, TomG, TomF

= Agenda =
* Review action items from 7/6 meeting
* ChimeraX paper
* Changing Windows build machine
* Yet another new bundle building change
* Sessions: msgpack vs pickle
* Chimera 1 fetching vs SSL certificate on Windows
* ChimeraX alpha 2 release?
* Next meeting: Chimera 1.12 release?
* Next meeting: Who will develop mmCIF writer?
* Next meeting: ChimeraX on Github

= Discussion =
* ChimeraX paper
  - TomF reading final proof, which looks good
* Changing Windows build machine
  - Greg moved daily builds from ''vive'' (VR machine) to ''snow'' (Greg's Core i3 desktop)
* Yet another new bundle building change
  - Works for daily build
  - Conrad needs to update sample code
* Sessions: msgpack vs pickle
{{{
                           3xf5     1tr4    5ijn     3j3q
    number of atoms        3687    68540  594304  2440800
    file size (MB)          0.7      6.6      80      254

    compressed pickle     0.041     0.25    1.67     8.24
        \ file size        144K     1.6M     14M      54M
        \ save time         .12      1.3     9.5     30.5
    uncompressed pickle   0.039     0.21    1.30     6.85
        \ file size        652K      11M     96M     379M
        \ save time        0.04      .18     1.4     11.4
    for compressed files:
      deserialize data    12.2%    33.4%   56.0%    52.1%
      resolve reference   15.1%    17.6%    1.6%     0.1%
      restore data        13.2%    34.1%   40.4%    47.4%

    compressed msgpack    0.040     0.22    1.49     7.17
         \ file size       143K     1.6M     14M      54M
         \ save time       0.13      1.4     9.7     31.8
    uncompressed msgpack  0.038     0.18    1.14     5.82
         \ file size       628K      10M     93M     366M
         \ save time       0.06      0.2     1.7     12.1
    for compressed files:
      deserialize data     6.2%    28.3%   48.1%    42.7%
      resolve references  14.8%    17.2%    1.7%     0.1%
      restore data        13.8%    33.3%   47.4%    56.5%

    msgpack % faster       2.5%      14%     12%      15%
}}}
  - Switch to msgpack as default and test.  If successful, make msgpack the default.
* Chimera 1 fetching vs SSL certificate on Windows
  - Works in 1.10 (Greg yes, TomG maybe)
  - Fails on 1.11.2, unable to verify certificate
  - More testing is needed.  Test pdb.org vs rcsb.org.
* ChimeraX alpha 2 release?
  - Check back in a week.

= Action Items =
* Greg: More testing is needed.  Test pdb.org vs rcsb.org.
* All: Go through tickets and assign alpha2 milestone to important defect tickets
* Conrad will continue working on ribbon tickets
* Conrad will investigate implementing the "like" operator
 - e.g., to specify polymer in atomspec
* Scooter will investigate making tickets public (possibly marking some tickets private)