[Chimera-users] Click-and-drag selection still not working for chimera in Mac OSX....any plans for improvement

Carmen Bayly carmen.bayly at gmail.com
Wed Jul 25 16:20:55 PDT 2018


Thanks Tom, Elaine,

I see - yes, my mac is from that era! Older, actually. Thanks for following
up. Shame that Apple's not maintaining an OpenGL. Do you know if the bug
disappears with newer macs?

I really appreciate this software, by the way. Showing it to all my
students!

Carmen

On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 4:18 PM, Elaine Meng <meng at cgl.ucsf.edu> wrote:

> Hi Carmen,
> I also have this issue, but I’d never noticed it since I never use
> drag-select!!!  I have a mid-2015 MacBook Pro with Intel processor and
> graphics, and can confirm that selection by dragging a rectangle over
> sticks/ribbon does not work even at OS 10.13.6.
>
> As mentioned, however, I never use drag-select, as it is imprecise and I
> am uncoordinated.  I just use Ctrl-click (+ Shift to add to selection) to
> click on atoms and bonds directly, and then press keyboard up arrow to
> promote  atoms/bonds -> residues -> (etc.) as described here:
> <http://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/
> selection.html#expandselect>
>
> I hope this helps,
> Elaine
> -----
> Elaine C. Meng, Ph.D.
> UCSF Chimera(X) team
> Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry
> University of California, San Francisco
>
> > On Jul 25, 2018, at 4:06 PM, Tom Goddard <goddard at sonic.net> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Carmen,
> >
> >  Certain Mac laptops with Intel graphics from circa 2015 have a graphics
> driver bug that Chimera prevents drag select from working atoms and sticks
> (although it works in wire style display).  Unfortunately Apple abandoned
> effort on the OpenGL graphics library years ago in favor inventing their
> own new graphics library called Metal.  Chimera has to work on Windows and
> Linux in addition to Mac so we do not use the Apple-only Metal library.
> While OpenGL continues to work on Mac computers, I would not expect Apple
> to fix any OpenGL graphics driver bugs.
> >
> >  That said, you are running an old macOS version (10.12.2) and you would
> only get graphics driver fixes with never versions of the operating
> system.  I doubt the latest macOS 10.13.6 fixes your problem, but I don’t
> have this relatively rare Mac laptop to test if it is fixed.
> >
> >       Tom
> >
> >
> >> On Jul 25, 2018, at 2:11 PM, Carmen Bayly wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello Chimera users,
> >>
> >> I'm working with Chimera on an OSX 10.12.2 (intel core processor). I
> noticed that the click-and-drag selection function doesn't work, and saw a
> bug report from 2015 explaining it was because of the intel processor.
> >>
> >> However, it's 2018 now - does anyone know any fixes besides the wire
> display style?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Carmen
>
>
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