<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi Alejandro,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> You can assign mouse modes to VR hand controller buttons. For example, this ChimeraX command, makes the right grip button toggle the selection of the segmented region you are pointing at</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>vr button grip "select toggle" hand right</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Here is the vr button command documentation</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><a href="https://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/commands/device.html#vr-button" class="">https://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/commands/device.html#vr-button</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">and the documentation for mouse modes</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><a href="https://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/commands/ui.html#functions" class="">https://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimerax/docs/user/commands/ui.html#functions</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The Segment Map tool has no corresponding command to do most of the operations the user interface panel does, so unfortunately you can't use a command to write out the regions you want. But you can use the user interface panel. This Segment Map (also known as Segger) tool was written by Greg Pintilie and I think he still works on the old Chimera, and not ChimeraX.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> Tom<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Dec 14, 2021, at 6:26 AM, Alejandro Villalta via ChimeraX-users <<a href="mailto:chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu" class="">chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" class="">
<div class=""><p class="">Hi Tom,</p><p class="">I was talking about electronic microscopy maps. I did a
segmentation of the map and then I wanted to select only the
regions that were of interest to me. I tried to hold the selection
button but it select all the regions. Nevertheless I didn't try
to hold while pressing another button. with the button down do you
mean the joystick pointing toward down? I used a Quest2. I don't
know if it can help but intuitively, I tried to press the grip
spectating that that could work as shift. I tried to remove the
headset and select with the mouse on the flat screen but it didn't
allow me to click. I also tried to select on VR while pressing the
shift button on the keyboard and didn't work.<br class="">
</p><p class="">Yes, I understand that the command lines on VR could be not easy,
nothing as a keyboard to write. But what I meant is that if you
know the name of the regions you could select them on after the
flatscreen by command lines. <br class="">
</p><p class="">Thank you very much for your reply</p><p class="">Alejandro<br class="">
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/13/21 7:34 PM, Tom Goddard wrote:<br class="">
</div>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:22CC6675-20E0-451F-9DB3-2B1DD6B122E8@sonic.net" class="">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" class="">
Hi Alejandro,
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class=""> Thanks for your VR suggestions!</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class=""> When you say segment or select different segments
do you mean atomic models or are you talking about electron
microscopy maps? I guess you mean selecting parts of an atomic
model. Using the VR hand controller with a button assigned to
the "select" mode you can point at an atom or ribbon residue and
select it. If you hold the button down and then move your hand
upward when selecting it will extend the selection to select the
whole residue, whole helix, beta strand, or turn, whole chain.
With a mouse you can select multiple parts by holding the shift
key, but we don't have an equivalent for that in VR. Can you
tell me what you were trying to select so I can think about how
it could be done with the VR hand controller.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class=""> I agree that it would be nice if pointing the VR
controller at an atom could show the chain id, residue number,
and atom name in a popup. Since you can't currently type
commands in VR it would not be so useful for commands, but it is
could to be able to figure out which residues you are looking
at. I have not added a virtual VR keyboard because it is
excruciatingly slow to type commands by poking with VR
controllers. There are a lot of challenges to make the VR user
interface work well. It makes you appreciate how powerful the
mouse and keyboard are when you are reduced to using hand
controllers with a few buttons.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Tom</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
<div class=""><br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">
<div class="">On Dec 13, 2021, at 8:44 AM, Elaine Meng via
ChimeraX-users <<a href="mailto:chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu</a>>
wrote:</div>
<br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
<div class="">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=UTF-8" class="">
<div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode:
space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">
<div class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px;
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font,
"Helvetica Neue", Helvetica,
sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">From: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font,
Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">Alejandro
Villalta Cásares <<a href="mailto:alejandrovillaltac@gmail.com" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">alejandrovillaltac@gmail.com</a>><br class="">
</span></div>
<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px;
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font,
"Helvetica Neue", Helvetica,
sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font,
Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">ChimeraX VR question or suggestions</b><br class="">
</span></div>
<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px;
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font,
"Helvetica Neue", Helvetica,
sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">Date: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font,
Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">December
13, 2021 at 4:36:03 AM PST<br class="">
</span></div>
<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px;
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font,
"Helvetica Neue", Helvetica,
sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">To: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font,
Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="mailto:chimerax@cgl.ucsf.edu" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">chimerax@cgl.ucsf.edu</a><br class="">
</span></div>
<br class="">
<div class="">
<div class="">Dear ChimeraX staff,<br class="">
<br class="">
I tested the ChimeraX VR mode today. I was very
happy on how it looks and how easy it was to
move and see some parts of the structure
compared to the flat screen version.
Nevertheless, the function that I think it will
very useful the VR is to segment and select
different segments to save them later. That I
couldn't manage to do it after some time I
managed to be able to select one region but no
more than one at time. It should be nice to add
the ability to select multiple regions or at
least as in the flat screen that it tells you
the name of the models that you are pointing,
like that we could pass through command lines.
Also it should be nice that a keyboard appears
on the headset in order to type on the command
lines, but it is true that is a minor point, if
it can be written directly on the PC.<br class="">
<br class="">
Thank you very much for this amazing function,<br class="">
<br class="">
I hope that this constructive mail could help
you to improve it more.<br class="">
<br class="">
Sincerely yours,<br class="">
<br class="">
Alejandro Villalta<br class="">
<br class="">
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<br class="">
</div>
_______________________________________________<br class="">
ChimeraX-users mailing list<br class="">
<a href="mailto:ChimeraX-users@cgl.ucsf.edu" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">ChimeraX-users@cgl.ucsf.edu</a><br class="">
Manage subscription:<br class="">
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimerax-users">https://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimerax-users</a><br class="">
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<br class="">
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
_______________________________________________<br class="">ChimeraX-users mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:ChimeraX-users@cgl.ucsf.edu" class="">ChimeraX-users@cgl.ucsf.edu</a><br class="">Manage subscription:<br class="">https://www.rbvi.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimerax-users<br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>