<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi Rayees,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> Mac Air graphics is pretty slow for running ISOLDE. But Tristan Croll who develops ISOLDE added a nice option "Sim Fidelity" to the ISOLDE panel in the middle -- by default it is set to "High" and setting it to "Quick" will make the simulations run much faster. Here is what Tristan told me about what it does:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">"The latest ISOLDE release has new “sim fidelity” radio buttons on the “Sim settings” tab. The “quick” mode (no implicit solvent, nonbonded cutoff tightened to 9 Å) runs about 4x faster on my MacBook Air and still gives reasonable results in good density. Still not *fast*, but I think definitely usable."</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">This is in ISOLDE 1.2.2. If you need to update ISOLDE use ChimeraX menu Tools / More Tools....</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> If this is still too slow, I'm afraid it is a limitation. You have to use faster hardware. The realtime dynamics simulations used by ISOLDE need fast graphics - the molecular dynamics is done with OpenMM using OpenCL or CUDA GPU accelerated computation. CUDA is fastest and needs Nvidia graphics and the CUDA driver installed -- Macs don't support Nvidia gpus. The macOS OpenCL implementation is very slow, almost as slow as just running on the CPU.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> Tristan has ISOLDE benchmarks on different hardware here</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><a href="https://isolde.cimr.cam.ac.uk/performance-benchmarks/" class="">https://isolde.cimr.cam.ac.uk/performance-benchmarks/</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> Tom</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 22, 2021, at 6:03 PM, Rayees Mattoo <<a href="mailto:rmattoo@stanford.edu" class="">rmattoo@stanford.edu</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class="">Hi Tom,</div><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class="">Thanks for responding. Actually, I wanted to run ISOLDE from chimeraX and already tried it running on Mac with my 500KDa protein complex. It was very slow, wanted to try on linux machine and ran into the OpenGL problem. Do you have any suggestions how to run ISOLDE faster on mac? </div><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class="">Best</div><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class="">Rayees</div><div id="appendonsend" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""></div><hr tabindex="-1" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; display: inline-block; width: 775.171875px;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=""></span><div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tom Goddard <<a href="mailto:goddard@sonic.net" class="">goddard@sonic.net</a>><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, July 22, 2021 5:32 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Rayees Mattoo <<a href="mailto:rmattoo@stanford.edu" class="">rmattoo@stanford.edu</a>><br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu" class="">chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu</a> <<a href="mailto:chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu" class="">chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu</a>>; <a href="mailto:chimerax-bugs@cgl.ucsf.edu" class="">chimerax-bugs@cgl.ucsf.edu</a> <<a href="mailto:chimerax-bugs@cgl.ucsf.edu" class="">chimerax-bugs@cgl.ucsf.edu</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [chimerax-users] How to access ChimeraX remotely from macbook (OS mojave)?</font><div class=""> </div></div><div class="" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; word-wrap: break-word; line-break: after-white-space;"><div class="">Hi Rayees,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div>I guess you have X Windows (XQuartz) running on your Mac and are hoping that X remote display from Linux to the Mac will work with ChimeraX. Unfortunately X Windows remote display of 3D OpenGL graphics has not worked reliably since the days Silicon Graphics computers in the 1990s. It is possible to get it to work between two Linux machines with identical OpenGL drivers. But it would be a near miracle if the XQuartz implementation of X Windows on Mac could handle the OpenGL from a Linux machine.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The sensible approach is to run ChimeraX directly on your MacBook Pro. We don't recommend remote display even when it works because rendering speed is likely to be poor.<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="x_Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"></span>Tom</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 22, 2021, at 1:31 PM, Rayees Mattoo via ChimeraX-users <<a href="mailto:chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu" class="">chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu</a>> wrote:</div><br class="x_Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Hi,</div><div class="" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">I am trying to access ChimeraX remotley using my mac book pro. The ChimeraX is installed on linux machine. Upon launching, the chimeraX GUI appears and suddenly disappears with the following error message: "ChimeraX requires OpenGL graphics version 3.3. Your computer graphics driver provided version 1.4, <span class="" style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Try updating your graphics driver". </span></div><div class="" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span class="" style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">My mac currently has macOS mojave version 10.14.6 and it seems it does not have OpenGL graphics version 3.3 required to display chimeraX remotely. Is there any way out to fix the problem? Not sure if updating my macbook to Catalina or BigSur is going to help! </span></div><div class="" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span class="" style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br class=""></span></div><div class="" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span class="" style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Best</span></div><div class="" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; 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