<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi Tony,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">  Mostly putting your ChimeraX plugin on the ChimeraX Toolshed (free app store) <a href="https://cxtoolshed.rbvi.ucsf.edu" class="">https://cxtoolshed.rbvi.ucsf.edu</a> makes it super simple for anyone using ChimeraX to install, just using menu Tools / More Tools... and pressing an install button.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">  For plugins distributed on the Toolshed our plan is that the documentation in most cases would be included in the plugin in html format.  The advantage of this is that as you make new versions of your plugin with new features the user who has your old version sees the documentation for that old version.  This avoids confusion where the online documentation is not correct for all the old versions of your plugin.   We have not yet been including documentation with the Toolshed plugins we create so it is rather untested right now (I think the ViewDockX plugin is the only one doing that), so your solution of having the Help menu entry go to your web site is fine.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">  </span>Tom<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Mar 27, 2020, at 11:08 AM, Greg Couch <<a href="mailto:gregc@cgl.ucsf.edu" class="">gregc@cgl.ucsf.edu</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
  
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">As ChimeraX matures, we are really
      hoping that you make your tool deliverable through the ChimeraX
      Toolshed that is accessible via the Tools menu's "More Tools..."
      option.  Those tool bundles should be semantically versioned
      releases and reasonably self contained.  The github version should
      be for development and may or may not need a ChimeraX daily build
      to work.  Making releases is more work, but will benefit users a
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">    -- Greg<br class="">
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/27/2020 10:43 AM, Tom Goddard
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      <div class="">  Seems like the simplest solution would if we made
        the help command handle http/https urls so I added that, in
        tonight's ChimeraX builds. So in our ToolInstance class you can
        just define an attribute help = "<a href="https://github.com/" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/</a>..." so
        the context menu Help button on your tool will show your web
        site docs.</div>
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      <div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">     </span>Tom</div>
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            <div class="">On Mar 26, 2020, at 11:01 PM, Anthony James
              Schaefer <<a href="mailto:tony.schaefer@uga.edu" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">tony.schaefer@uga.edu</a>>
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                font-size: 12pt;" class=""><span style="font-family:
                  Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">can tools'
                  "Help" option in the context menu be changed to use
                  `ToolInstance.display_help` instead of running the
                  `help` command? I'd like to keep most of my
                  documentation on GitHub. The `help` command cannot
                  open URLs, so I thought I'd overwrite my tools'
                  `display_help` methods to use `open` instead. However,
                  I discovered this method isn't used anywhere.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
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                font-size: 12pt;" class=""><span style="font-family:
                  Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">I've tried
                  changing `_show_context_menu` in chimerax.ui.gui
                  (around line 2087) to
                  `help_action.triggered.connect(ti.display_help)`. It
                  seems to behave the same for all built-in tools.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
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                font-size: 12pt;" class=""><span style="font-family:
                  Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">I understand
                  there might be reasons to not do this (<i class="">e.g.</i><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>users might
                  not be able to connect to the internet). I'd like to
                  keep stuff on GitHub because I can make a page on a
                  GitHub wiki page faster than an HTML doc. Regardless
                  of how tools' help pages get shown, I'd like to have
                  examples of what my bundle can do on the GitHub wiki.
                  To that end, my GitHub wiki could serve a dual
                  purpose: a showcase and documentation.</span><br class="">
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