<html><head></head><body><div class="ydp17457f6eyahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Hi Greg,</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Many thanks for your response. Our IT specialist is out this week, so I will re-connect with her next week to review what you have sent as it is beyond my scope of understanding!</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">To your questions about where the fail is occurring (the installer vs. one of the files being installed?), I am not sure. The installer seems to run through the entire process (we watch the progress bar go basically to the end), and afterward we get the error message that the install failed. Please see the attached screen cap.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I will for sure follow up as soon as my IT specialist returns.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Thanks so much for being diligent with my issue.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Cheers-Alice Kitterman</div><div><br></div><div class="ydp17457f6esignature">Alice Y Chen
 AY Chen Illustration and Design
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                    On Monday, August 9, 2021, 01:11:51 PM EDT, Greg Couch <gregc@cgl.ucsf.edu> wrote:
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    <p>Hi Alice,</p>
    <p>Since you are the customer of the antivirus software, you or your
      IT specialist need to submit ChimeraX as a false positive to the
      antivirus vendor.  Then, after that knowledge is incorporated by
      the antivirus software, it should no longer be considered a
      virus.  You didn't say this time if it was the ChimeraX installer,
      which is cryptographically signed, or if it was one of the files
      ChimeraX installs.  If the latter, then that file would be the one
      that you submit.  And please share which file is causing the
      problem.  I can envision a scenario where the antivirus software
      complains about a third party package in ChimeraX that doesn't
      have the latest security fix, and if that is the case, we could
      update the ChimeraX daily build to work around the issue.  But
      that is normally beyond the scope of antivirus software and would
      break lots of things besides ChimeraX.<br clear="none">
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    <p>    HTH,</p>
    <p>    Greg<br clear="none">
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    <div class="ydpc118cd38yiv8236073330moz-cite-prefix">On 8/9/2021 7:23 AM, Alice Chen via
      Chimera-users wrote:<br clear="none">
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          <div dir="ltr">Hi Tom,</div>
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          <div dir="ltr">Hi, I contacted you a few
            weeks ago re: an error message I was receiving in trying to
            install Chimera X onto a Windows 10 PC laptop. </div>
          <div dir="ltr">Thank you again for your
            help with determining that the error message I received had
            to do with the antivirus software interfering with the
            install.</div>
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          <div dir="ltr">In talking with my IT
            specialist, there's no way for us to disable the antivirus
            software to get the install to complete. So, do you know if
            there might another way to get the install to complete? I
            was able to install an older version of Chimera on that
            computer, so, is there a possile workaround for Chimera X?</div>
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          <div dir="ltr">Thanks again-</div>
          <div dir="ltr">Alice Kitterman</div>
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          <div class="ydpc118cd38yiv8236073330ydp5944391fsignature">Alice Y Chen AY Chen
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          <div> On Wednesday, July 14, 2021, 01:25:16 PM EDT, Tom
            Goddard <a shape="rect" class="ydpc118cd38yiv8236073330moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:goddard@sonic.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><goddard@sonic.net></a> wrote: </div>
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              <div>Using google to search for IPersistFile that appears
                in the error message says it is probably your antivirus
                software interfering with the installation and you may
                need to turn off antivirus while it installs.  It is not
                a ChimeraX issue.  Good luck.
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                          <div class="ydpc118cd38yiv8236073330ydp99638744yiv8729740845">On Jul
                            14, 2021, at 10:17 AM, Alice Chen via
                            Chimera-users
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                                  <div class="ydpc118cd38yiv8236073330ydp99638744yiv8729740845" dir="ltr">Hi Tom,</div>
                                  <div class="ydpc118cd38yiv8236073330ydp99638744yiv8729740845" dir="ltr">Please see below the email
                                    trail. I had my IT specialist try to
                                    install ChimeraX again, and the same
                                    thing happened: it ran through the
                                    install process (watched the
                                    progress bar), and at the very end,
                                    the error message attached in screen
                                    cap format appeared.</div>
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                                  <div class="ydpc118cd38yiv8236073330ydp99638744yiv8729740845" dir="ltr">I had already had this
                                    software program approved to install
                                    from our IT head, so, I'm not sure
                                    what to do at this point.</div>
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                                  <div class="ydpc118cd38yiv8236073330ydp99638744yiv8729740845" dir="ltr">Thanks very much-Alice
                                    Kitterman</div>
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                                    On Thursday, July 8, 2021, 08:35:04
                                    PM EDT, Tom Goddard
                                    <a shape="rect" class="ydpc118cd38yiv8236073330moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:goddard@sonic.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><goddard@sonic.net></a> wrote: </div>
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                                        there an error message when
                                        ChimeraX it fails to install?
                                         What step is the installer
                                        dialog showing before it fails?
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                                                  Jul 8, 2021, at 10:28
                                                  AM, Alice Chen via
                                                  Chimera-users <<a shape="rect" class="ydpc118cd38yiv8236073330ydp99638744yiv8729740845ydp5acec78byiv6316919052" href="mailto:chimera-users@cgl.ucsf.edu" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">chimera-users@cgl.ucsf.edu</a>> wrote:</div>
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                                                        <div class="ydpc118cd38yiv8236073330ydp99638744yiv8729740845ydp5acec78byiv6316919052" dir="ltr">Hello, </div>
                                                        <div class="ydpc118cd38yiv8236073330ydp99638744yiv8729740845ydp5acec78byiv6316919052" dir="ltr">I'm
                                                          on a Dell XPS
                                                          9500 laptop
                                                          running
                                                          Windows v.
                                                          10.0.2.1000.
                                                          When my IT
                                                          specialist
                                                          tried to
                                                          install it, it
                                                          would run the
                                                          install
                                                          program but at
                                                          the very end
                                                          the install
                                                          would fail. We
                                                          were able to
                                                          install the
                                                          old non-X
                                                          version of
                                                          Chimera. Is
                                                          there
                                                          something we
                                                          should/can do
                                                          to check,
                                                          settings-wise?</div>
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                                                          Kitterman</div>
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