<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi Mike,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> I just noticed the subject of your message said ChimeraX. All my answer was about Chimera, not ChimeraX. (There is a separate ChimeraX mailing list <a href="mailto:chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu" class="">chimerax-users@cgl.ucsf.edu</a>).</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> Here are ChimeraX tips. So in ChimeraX there is no cross-eye stereo mode (yet). So I would suggest using the two side-by-side ChimeraX windows. There is an icon in the lower right corner that hides all the tool panels at the right edge so the graphics is the full window width. Use the windowsize command to get the right aspect ratio (e.g. windowsize 900 1200). Use a saved session. Rotate one image with "turn y 6". Use the File / Save... dialog and choose PNG image and set pixel size to be 300 times desired print width in inches. One thing that could be a bit weird is if you use full lighting then it casts a direct shadow and the left and right eye direct shadows won't match since the light direction is fixed to the view direction (ie the light does not rotate 6 degrees, so the left and right eye won't see the same lighting). Soft lighting only has isotropic shadows so won't have that problem. If the direct shadow is a problem you could rotate the light using the "lighting" command. Use lighting with no options to show the current direction vector for the light, then calculate a rotated direction 6 degrees and set it with the "lighting direction x,y,z" command.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Tom</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 7, 2019, at 1:47 PM, Tom Goddard <<a href="mailto:goddard@sonic.net" class="">goddard@sonic.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">You might also set "supersample 1x1". The default 3x3 setting makes the image 3 times bigger on each axis and then bins down by a factor of 3. Making it 3 times larger make cause the graphics to fail on such a large image. And at 300 dots per inch the 3x3 supersample won't have a visible effect.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Tom</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 7, 2019, at 1:45 PM, Tom Goddard <<a href="mailto:goddard@sonic.net" class="">goddard@sonic.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi Mike,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> The panel shown by File / Save Image... says pixels "Units pixels". </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Tom</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><span id="cid:7883902E-EE48-4AD0-B60B-10475F8F062B@cgl.ucsf.edu" class=""><Screen Shot 2019-11-07 at 1.44.52 PM.png></span><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 7, 2019, at 1:34 PM, Schmid, Michael F. <<a href="mailto:m-schmid@slac.stanford.edu" class="">m-schmid@slac.stanford.edu</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class="">Hi-<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class="">Thanks. That really helps! So the “width” and “height”, if just given as 5400 and 7200, respectively, will be understood as pixels, or do you have to say “5400 pixels”?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Tom Goddard <<a href="mailto:goddard@sonic.net" class="">goddard@sonic.net</a>><br class=""><b class="">Date:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Thursday, November 7, 2019 at 1:28 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>"Schmid, Michael F." <<a href="mailto:m-schmid@slac.stanford.edu" class="">m-schmid@slac.stanford.edu</a>><br class=""><b class="">Cc:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>"<a href="mailto:chimera-users@cgl.ucsf.edu" class="">chimera-users@cgl.ucsf.edu</a>" <<a href="mailto:chimera-users@cgl.ucsf.edu" class="">chimera-users@cgl.ucsf.edu</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [Chimera-users] images from ChimeraX<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Hi Mike,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> To avoid pixelation make sure to save the left and right eye images at high resolution. Using Chimera File / Save Image... you would set the image size in pixels to be maybe 300 times the number of inches wide you will make the image (so if one eye image is 18 inches wide that use image width 5400 pixels).<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> For surface rendering of the tomogram make sure step is 1 in volume viewer so it is using the full resolution data.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> For getting the right angle of rotation between the two images I would suggest that you display it on a large flat panel screen (e.g. 50" TV) if you have one at the size you want to print at and check visually how well the cross-eye stereo pair is working. Make the Chimera window aspect ratio exactly match what you will print (e.g. 36 x 24n inches would be 3 to 2), for example use Chimera command "windowsize 1800 1200". In Chimera you can use the "cross-eye stereo" camera in the side view (menu Favorites / Side View) Camera tab in the "camera mode" menu. Then you can fiddle a bit with the focal plane by going to the Side View tab, choose "Side: top" and drag the vertical dashed yellow line left or right. It represents the focal plane. I'm not sure what that means for cross-eyed stereo but it effects the angle of rotation between left and right images. I tried this on my 24 inch wide screen (so not as big as you will print) and I really have to stand far back (5 or 6 feet) to comfortably look at it, otherwise the floating image is too close to my face and I think my eyes don't like to converge that close while still focusing 5 feet away. If this cross-eye stereo mode works for you, you can use File / Save Image... and it will save the two eyes as a single image.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> If that cross-eye stereo mode isn't working well for you you could open two copies of Chimera side by side and rotate the image of one relative to the other with the command "turn y 6" to rotate one view by 6 degrees. You might first save a session in the desired orientation that you open in both Chimera copies then rotate just one of them.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> I think the key here is to try it on a screen to see if it is giving you what you want before you print.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Tom<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""><br class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">On Nov 7, 2019, at 9:48 AM, Schmid, Michael F. <<a href="mailto:m-schmid@slac.stanford.edu" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">m-schmid@slac.stanford.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class="">Hi-</span><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class="">I am trying to make a high resolution image of a surface rendering of a tomogram. The final size of the image(s) will be 18 in x 24 in. It is for a wall display. How do I do it for the best (minimally pixelated) result? I presume I will have to adjust the triangle rendering of the maps to be included, and also the rendering of the final images (for a stereo pair). Also, I assume I have to render them at ~6 degrees total tilt with respect to each other.</span><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class="">Thanks,</span><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt;" class="">Mike</span><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Chimera-users mailing list:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="mailto:Chimera-users@cgl.ucsf.edu" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica; color: rgb(149, 79, 114);" class="">Chimera-users@cgl.ucsf.edu</span></a><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica;" class=""><br class="">Manage subscription:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="http://plato.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimera-users" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica; color: rgb(149, 79, 114);" class="">http://plato.cgl.ucsf.edu/mailman/listinfo/chimera-users</span></a></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></div></body></html>